A number of people have commentated over the past few days about Todd Bentley recently criticizing the critics for ‘bashing’ him re the angel Emma –
“Todd said the other night that critics talking about him saying the angel Emma was there were wrong and totally off. He was disgusted at how people were spreading false stories about him.”
Todd Bentley apparently publically said (thanks Sarah for this transcript):
“And I’ll say this for all the critics out there: WHAT are you talking about Emma and a female angel?!” Then to the audience, “Just had to say that to some people out there in Heresyland.” Then back into the camera, “THERE IS NO FEMALE ANGEL!…directing me.”
And the audience applauded. He continued,
“Emma and all that, that’s just a whole other experience. Don’t tie it into this. It’s not the healing angel I’m talking about. God said, ‘This angel is with you, just like I assigned an angel to William Branham. Not the same angel, an angel like. Just like the angel that was with John Lake.’”
He then went on to explain that the thousands of “healing angels” that were in the stands were angels God was ready last night to dispatch to people, cities, churches, ministries, that are ready to accept them.
Obviously Todd Bentley is trying to detract criticism and undermine the critics by lying about the critics and what they are actually saying, and creating a false trail of red herrings – just like he falsely claimed the critics were only ’picking on him’ because of his appearance, education and background, which is similarly not true. Critics criticise him because he is a documented liar and false prophet!
And the trouble is with this latest distortion of his on the red herring trail, is there are no false stories on this site, or any of the other main watchman sites I am aware of, about angel Emma. All the sites link to his own testimony, his own prophecies in his own words – that disappeared overnight when he did some houseclearing without retraction on his website [what does this say about his and his ministry’s intergrity. He keeps most of the story but deletes the name ‘Emma’.]. So if he is saying the stories on sites like this about Emma are false, he is saying his own stories are false, as they are exactly what we quote, word for word – which can be the only conclusion if he says it is a ‘pack of lies’ – which proves our point about him being a liar and false prophet. What does he have to be ‘disgusted ‘about? Himself?
“Emma and all that, that’s just a whole other experience. Don’t tie it into this. It’s not the healing angel I’m talking about.”
Stephen Strader has recently said that the angel Emma won’t be mentioned again because Strader is ‘uncomfortable about it’ – eg; read that as: the uproar and rebuke has been embrassing for the ‘revival’. See here for Stephen Strader’s comments re the angel Emma and other of his lies and contradictions here.
Notice too what Todd Bentley is actually saying here. He is not denying belief in Emma, or retracting all his claims about her, he is saying that is a whole ‘other experience’ (from a few years ago and another time, claims Stephen Strader, but this is not true as can be seen later in this article). But so what, even if it was a few years ago and has not been mentioned since (it has though, I just mention this to humor Todd)? If it was false and ’cause for concern’ then and makes both him and Bob Jones who introduced Emma to Bentley false prophets then, it makes them still false prophets NOW as they have not changed any or changed the spirits they prophesy by – if anything they have gotten much worse. Bob Jones, the same introductory source for Emma, has allegedly introduced and prophesied many other angels to Todd since, including ‘Winds of Change’ who is frequently referred to at Lakeland. If Emma was false then, then the source was false, right? And this false source, Bob Jones, still prophesies and introduce pass-me-on angels to many of the new prophetic crowd including Todd Bentley.
Regardless then, even if angel Emma has not been mentioned in this particular Lakeland ‘revival’ (she HAS but we’ll come to that in a minute) that is really not the point. Because Todd Bentley and Bob Jones and many others in the prophetic movement believe in Emma and have prophesied about her without repentence and retraction for years (only covering up now because of criticism – which is a work of darkness and not the light) and keeping quiet about her and covering her up also contradicts what Todd Bentley said recently at Lakeland (source – from Stephen Strader’s own words from his Lakeland Revival blog): –
“This is the one thing, people hate … when I talk about the Angel …. People say ‘don’t talk about the angel’ but I’m telling you, right now, to deny prophetic destiny and what you’ve received from the Lord is to turn from the Lord; I could not stand before the Lord, and say I saw the angel of lord, if I did not see it; GOD WOULD STRIKE ME DOWN.”
But Stephen Strader ADMITS both Todd Bentley and Bob Jones have agreed not to talk anymore about Emma, and they have also shown this by deleting her from the Fresh Fire website as well as the recent moving away from her which is tantamount to denial and deceptive at that. But err… isn’t this agreeing not to talk about his angels, in Todd’s own words, thus denying ‘prophetic destiny’, and is ‘turning from the Lord’ deserving that ‘God would strike him down’ if he either lied about or denied his angels? He does both and God has not struck him down yet! That one quote alone illustates the continued lack of truth and the continued contradictions in this ‘revival’!
If people rightly have concerns about the biblicalness of the angel Emma, so what if Todd does not think she is behind this revival and other angels by other names are? Emma still shows up Todd to be a false prophet. Emma is related to false lying visions from false lying prophets that are unrepented of, so THIS is the point to highlight – not how recent the visions have been or which particular revival they are linked to.
“It’s not the healing angel I’m talking about.”
What in this particular instance? So what if you have moved onto angels by other names? And besides which, it is not just the angel Emma that is unbiblical. There are plenty of other male angels he claims to see and work with which give EQUAL, if not more cause for concern than Emma, that are equally unbiblical – and they are all introduced from the same false source, ‘prophet’ Bob Jones.
“It’s not the healing angel I’m talking about.”
Bob Jones said at Lakeland on May 13th that Emma means ‘healing’ and she is one of three powerful angels present at Lakeland.
On May 13th 2008 Bob Jones said:
“And an angel appeared to me, told me to get paul keith (here tomorrow) and ken maddock, bobby Connors … HEALING ANGEL, called winds of change appeared to me …. Do you (crowd) believe in angels? …. Yes? ….. well, I saw winds of change said, extreme weather patterns in every form; winds shutting down entire towns from north west; so TODD you are from north west, you need to shut down towns;
And 3 powerful angels are here; Emma, means healing and another called Grace; and Winds of Change.”
Todd did not contradict or rebuke Bob at all, and by all account agreed with him and lapped up his word. There are also other lies and embellishments on this night I will pull out in another article.
If Emma is to be denied then Bob Jones must be denied. If Emma is not there at Lakeland with them, then that makes Bob Jones a false prophet in Todd Bentley’s book and it means Todd allowed Bob to lie/falsely prophesy to the crowds on May 13th without correction. (However, Todd evidently did not have a problem at the time as he was apparently lapping up Bob’s every word just as he has lapped up all of the other ridiculous things and aberrant Bob Jones claims). Let me make that clear – they cannot have both ways. Either Emma is there, or she is not there, and Bob Jones is a lying false prophet. And if Bob Jones is a lying false prophet, this whole revival is false because it is based on Bob Jones, his prophecies and other directions and is orchestrated behind the scene by him. So what is it to be?
“THERE IS NO FEMALE ANGEL!…directing me”
Emma is not the only female angel prophesied by Bob Jones on stage with Todd Bentley’s agreement being at Lakeland. Others include an angel called ’Grace’. Admittedly, Todd’s main ‘man’ now is a lot more macho ‘Angel of the Lord’, but these angels are still repeatedly mentioned, recently too.
“THERE IS NO FEMALE ANGEL!…directing me”
Although he and his cronies say they are, I actually believe this to be a true statement – one of the few he has made. Because Todd Bentley repeatedly lies about his experiences with angels and makes it up as he goes along. The one directing him seems to be Bob Jones, if anything, as is evident by all the talk on record.
“This angel is with you, just like I assigned an angel to William Branham. Not the same angel, an angel like. Just like the angel that was with John G Lake…”
It is really splitting hairs to say whether it is the same exact angel, or an angel LIKE, as this issue is not really about whether it is the same angel being claimed as anyone else, it is whether the angel is blilical. Rather, the concern is, the nature and deeds of this angel, the over focus on it, and the beliefs concerning the angel and how it is handed on by prophetic introduction. Furthermore, what kind of angel was assigned to William Branham and John G Lake – both notorious fake healers and liars (despite their place in the pentecostal hall of fame)?
However, not only that BUT Todd has claimed it is the same angel – and frequently too. Not just an angel ‘like’, the same angel. On April 10th, here, Todd said, in Stephen Strader’s own words –
“The same angel that came in 1948 has now come to Florida in 2008.